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  Is this normal witness behavior?

  by confusedstudent in

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  i quit my bible study a couple days ago after taking a month or two to work up the guts.

  have been getting harassing emails/phone calls blah blah blah.

  but i got an email today telling me that an unbelieving spouse can be "sanctified" by his believing mate.

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  When I was a witness, I could use fear by using and twisting scriptures, even more so than that which you have experienced, I (brought)a person into JW,s At the time I thought I had done well. Now I feel incredibly guilty, I wish I could turn the clock back, but I cant, I think of ways to get this person to question the lies. I may have inadvertently messed up someones life. I have to carry that around with me.

  You have had a narrow escape, JW,s Know every trick in the book, and then some.Had you joined,got baptised, the consequences for you and your family could have been catastrophic. Every aspect of your life would come under such scrutiny, and judgement, and loss of personal freedom, that moving to Afghanistan becoming a moslem and wearing a burka would have seemed like a good career move.

  On the topic of fear and paranoia, It got most of us on this forum, to subject our thinking facultys, to become Robotic, mindless automotons, I have not embraced another religion, however I cant recall a single incident where Jesus had to resort to fear and intimidation to teach and enlighten people, and as Christians,we were to follow in his footsteps.
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  HELP! How do I FADE without being DF'D??

  by doubtful in

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  2. friends

  i'm in a tough position.

  i gave my last talk as an ms a couple of weeks ago, and i haven't been out in field service in well over a month.

  i "came out" to the closest people in my life...namely my gf and mother...i was also recently asked to step down from being a servant - largely because my heart was no longer in it and i couldn't stomach going from door to door peddling magazines and other literature full of lies and logical fallacies.

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  YOU are not in a tough posistion, living in a third world country with no hope is a tough position, you are a spoiled little kid, who is worried about loosing fuck all. get a grip young man, and keep things in perspective, You are a very junior salesman in the Corp. Even if the worst scenario takes place, you are well ok, get a fucking life.
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  I would describe the Watchtower's Disfellowshipping as truly merciless

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thoughout my life i have seen many take the walk of shame that is disfellowshipping.

  i have never been df'ed, but i have had many experiences reading the faces of newly df'ed ones.. their faces are always the same.

  defeated by a foe that they never had a chance with in the beggining; a raping so-to-speak.

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  As much as i feel relieved to be free, I have to tell you that the JC, I experienced were great, I had to plead with them that I wanted to be disfellowshipped, they obliged,reluctently. I wont impute wrong motives to them, they tried to do there best. I just hated it and wanted out.

  Some people want to retain contact with others, not me, Just like Alladin getting out the lamp, I was free FREE. If I had stayed in, I would have used violence on 2 elders, even after 7 years out I could still cheerfully slaughter them, figurativley speaking SIMON, of course !
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  Of All of The Automobils You Have Ever Owned Which One Was Your Favorite?

  by Was New Boy in

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  2. friends

  they say the average person will own about 25 cars in their life time.. from 1982 to 1988 i owned a 1971 dodge challenger convertible.

  it had a 340 with a 4 speed stick.

  i loved that car.. i didnt cry when my wife left me....i did cry when that car drove out of my life!.

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  It was a vehicle known as a PIG, anyone in UK forces who done NI tour circa, 70,s 80,s may have driven, 1 ton of vehicle 7 tons of armour,probably the type of motor you need in the States. LOL
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  Cruel Hearted People

  by EXMS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i can't believe how people in the "organization" can be so cold hearted.. .

  last october, i got an invitation to a friends wedding where i grew up in portland, oregon.

  i now live in san diego, california.

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  Yep, I never met so many asholes as in JW,s. I finally got my sister to study thinking I was doing the right thing.The husband of this lady my sister was studying with used the oppertunity to miss-sell her an insurance policy, she didn,t complete the study.When later on she discovered she had been miss-sold this policy and had lost thousands of pounds as a result, she blamed me, as a then JW, I did not have a leg to stand on,the elder was a conman and a thief. I wont bore you with the many examples I could add here. I wouldnt piss on a witness if he was on fire
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  Hi I'm new.

  by sweetmochasista in

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  hello all.

  i'm not really new i registered about three years ago but never had the guts to post.

  i'm still in but want to be out..

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  Hiya, sweetmocha a big WELCOME, Great advice from the rest of the crew, I only wish you were here in UK, our benefits system,would be an enormous help to you, Im hopeful where you live has some sort of help for women your in predicement, perhaps you can investigate this as part of your exit strategy ? I went through a similar experience(the breakup of a marriage that had run its course, and leaving the Corp) Im sure you will cope, it never ceases to amaze me the way most women find the strength and will, when the heve children.

  I think you will find it a great relief to get out of two strangleholds at once.
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  And The Nations Will Fall (The Slave)

  by Este in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  daniel 2:44.

  44 in the time of those kings, the god of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people.

  it will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

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  Este Keep Repeating this phrsase. IT IS ONLY THE GOLFBALLS INABILITY TO SPEAK, WHICH PREVENTS IT FROM SAYING, I THINK THEREFOR I AM !
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  there are 2 classes of ex Jehovahs witnesses

  by the max in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi im part of a group of ex jh,s, we meet for drinks and dinner, go to football games.many of the guys do drugs,(i dont, i like sport) , most live very hedonistic lifestyles, lets leave it at that,(im happily married).

  my point is, when i left, i was honest, and got df,d.

  now im experiencing the same kind of shit that i experieced in the hall, the ex jw,s are just as judgemental, and stupid as when they were at the kingdom hall, for eg you were df,d we were not,it doesnt matter to them, that their doing coke and getting into group sex.

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  Hey you lot are too balanced and insightfull to have been in the Corp, In my humble opinion there is more sanity and tolerance, here, than I ever experienced in MOTHER. I have tried to inform my ex collegues to come here and become enlightened.However they need to keep up appearences cos they have familly inside,blah blah. Anyhow can I please thank you all for your responses, food for thought. The Max
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  Funniest JW memory?

  by stillstuckcruz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  perhaps something that happened in fs, the memorial, convention etc.

  i need a laugh.

  last year at the memorial, an old brother was so shaky in the hands, when he passed the wine it spilled all over him.

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  Me and my ex missus,who was, and still is a Pioneer, used to love singing , 666 the Number of the beast, by Iron Maiden between doors, Also remember an occasion a few years ago at the memorial, the bungling old Irish Elder, a really lovely old guy, took him 60 years to make elder hopeless old boy, who the nasty younger impatient, arrogant elders could barely contain their contempt for, anyway the old boy is put on sound(A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN) The vile, 2 faced little pile of shit taking the memorial, strutting about the stage full of his own self importance,discovers that the sound dept, has a gremlin, nothing is working no mikes no cd nothing. 200 people crammed into the hall, the CO in attendence, and this prick hoping to impress enough, so can get a slot at the District assembly. The whole show is in meltdown,Elders running to and fro frantic apologies offered, 5 minutes pass, total fucking shambles ,I just remember relishing that situation, that scrotum of a human being, Crashing and dying, in front of me.Turns out the old boy had pulled out some cables, and forgot to put them back. (It still gives me a warm glow now, when I think of it)
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  Need awesome suggestions!

  by the_raisin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for the last four days, every morning i take donut out for her walk, i always find jw's preaching door to door across the street.

  i always cross to them, and wait with dread at what i think is inevitable: they will try to preach to me.. but it never happens.

  four days, seen three diifferent groups, nothing.

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  Hey babe ,hang on in there,Your real brothers and sisters will look out for you, WE might be in Cyberspace,though we are here for you. x

  And I will pick your brain at a later date, cos i need help with my step daughter, night Raisin